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Mike Farag has been running Fervor, a Kansas City marketing agency serving faith-led organizations and nonprofits, for 17 years. He has worked with nearly 1,000 organizations, authored a book, launched a separate consulting firm, and co-owns an event space named after Dietrich Bonhoeffer. He also has a four-year-old in his late forties, which he will tell you was not the plan.
None of it was, really. That is kind of the point.
In Episode 58 of The Entrepreneurs Blueprint, Mike sat down with Courtney Cook to talk through what it actually looks like to build a niche agency in a sector that is chronically underinvested in marketing, manage the swings that come with that model, and lead a business where faith is not a tagline but the organizing principle.
Mike was 30 years old when he went to Haiti. He was jobless, freshly out of a corporate sales career at Sprint, and had just lost his first marriage. He was not looking for a business. He was looking for something that made sense.
He found it in a kid named Daniel.
“This kid is worshiping. He’s dancing. He’s got a smile to die for on his face. And I’m like, jealous of that kiddo,” Mike said. “How in the world am I sitting here, woe is me, with my divorce and my big old job and my big old house and my big old career and my big old problems, and this kid has more joy than I’ve ever had in my dang life?”
He came home and started journaling, reading, and eventually helping the nonprofit he had traveled to Haiti with. They needed everything: a better name, a better website, a clearer message. He thought it would be a short project and then he would return to telecom. That was the plan. God had different intentions.
“At the end of that time, it was so clear I couldn’t go back,” Mike said. After about a year and a half of treating it like a one-client project, Fervor became a real business.
Mike eventually wrote all of it down. His book, Marketing with Fervor, centers on a three-question framework that Fervor uses with every client: Who is it for? What are you going to tell them? How do you get more of the right ones?
It sounds simple. It is not always practiced.
“Most nonprofits don’t have a persona. They’re like, we know who we’re built for. I’m like, cool. Did you write it down? And they’re like, can you email it to me in the next five minutes? They’re like, nope, can’t do that. Well, then you don’t have it,” Mike said. “God chose to write 66 books down and said it’s really important. The words that we write down are really important. And we act like it’s not important for our businesses.”
The “who’s it for” piece is about defining what Fervor calls an ideal advocate, not just a donor or a client, but someone with a voice who can activate others in the way that big ad budgets do for secular brands. For faith-based organizations operating on lean budgets, advocacy is not optional. It is the model.
The third question, how to get more of the right ones, produces a communication roadmap: email strategy, social, content, campaigns, planned out for the next two years. “Anything healthy has healthy communication,” Mike said. “Anything that really wants to grow in meaningful ways has an understanding of who’s it for and what are you going to tell them.”
When Courtney pushed him on why he gave the framework away in a book rather than keeping it proprietary, his answer was direct: “I really don’t think any marketing agency has any secret sauce.” He wrote it for smaller nonprofits Fervor could not afford to serve at full capacity. It was obedience, he said. Not strategy.
When Courtney asked Mike what he would most want clarity on right now, he did not hesitate: managing the agency swings.
Fervor intentionally builds clients toward graduation. The model is two to four years, then a high five at the door. That is good for clients and good for the mission, but it creates a predictable volatility in revenue that Mike has been navigating for 17 years.
“You wanna have the freedom to say yes and no,” he said. “And to do that, you gotta have a little bit of cash in the bank to weather those swings.”
He has learned a few things the hard way. First, do not chase any client just because there is a gap. “Don’t pivot and refocus. When you’re in an established business and you’ve discerned who you’re for, you’ve got wise counsel around you, what I see is drift. They just bolt on something new. They go wild.”
Second, look backward. “In this business, it means you weren’t doing something six months ago. You want to be healthy and trim and ready for that marathon? That didn’t happen last week. That happened three months ago. You can go hustle up a client or two, but you can’t go hustle up a quarter.”
Third, do not pull everything back in when times get hard. Mike shared that earlier this year he hired an executive assistant specifically to hold him accountable to business development consistency. “Part of her job is to keep me on the business development consistency train. Every week, did I hit my number?” She also created what she called a CEO schedule scorecard that tracks the health of his calendar. “Where has this been for my last 17 years?” Mike said.
And perhaps most importantly, when times get hard, do not stop trusting your team. “Sometimes when you’ve gotten your teeth kicked in, as much as some of us have, and the two-by-four moments have happened, we finally start to say, maybe there’s a better way. If I start trusting my team to do their job, then we can all get out of this together, as opposed to me just putting more on my shoulder.”
Mike talked through the work Fervor has done with Two Lines Pregnancy Clinic, a pro-life clinic in Kansas City that came to them as Advice and Aid Pregnancy Clinic. Executive director Ruth Tisdell took the leap with Fervor even though the agency had not done much PRC work before. Mike and his wife had prayed about entering that space. They felt called to it. Ruth said yes.
The work included a full rebrand, a rename, both websites, email strategy, social content, and paid media campaigns. Fervor essentially functioned as an outsourced marketing department. They also helped Ruth build out a hiring roadmap for the next three years.
The results have been significant. Donor growth is north of 40%. Ruth had a goal to more than double the number of pregnancy tests and women seen in clinic. In 15 months, they are outpacing double that goal.
“When I get to go back to my team and say, guys, this month, 63 more babies, next month, 72 more babies, because of some of the work we’re putting in the market for her,” Mike said, “donors get excited about that.”
He was candid about the cost. “It’s cost me an employee. It’s cost me a partner. I’m just trying to be a good supply line for them. They’re on the front line.”
The graduation model is already underway. Two Lines has hired a marketing manager internally, and Fervor is actively transferring knowledge and ownership. That is the point. “We want them for two to four years with us and then we want to high five them on the way out the door.”
For nonprofits experiencing flat donor growth, Mike’s diagnosis is consistent: it is a symptom, not the problem. “Look back six months, three months. What were you not doing six months ago? If you don’t have regular communication with your donors, if you don’t have a campaign running at least once or twice a year, it shouldn’t be a surprise that your donor growth goes flat.”
He is equally direct about the investment required. “You can’t afford not to. Every business model canvas I’ve ever read has a marketing component to it. You’re saying you can’t afford marketing, and you’re solving heart problems. Yeti spends millions telling people their cup keeps water cold. You’re trying to get babies born.”
The conversation moved toward how Mike manages all of it: Fervor, F9 Consulting, The Bonhoeffer event space, a marriage, four kids, and a hobby farm.
His answer started with a Seinfeld reference. George Costanza famously kept his relationship George and his friend George separate, convinced that if they ever met, the world would end. Mike said that used to be him.
“One dot me was like, I had work Mike and he would turn it up. And then maybe I had a little faith Mike. I had a little social Mike. But they didn’t ever meet. That was part of the problem. I didn’t really show up fully anywhere. Nobody ever really knew me.”
He is not shooting for balance. He is shooting for integration. “Balance feels like a losing battle. Integration I think I can do.”
That means sometimes he stops at two in the afternoon to do something with his kids, and then he is back at the desk at seven forty-five after bedtime. It means his kids see him open his Bible if he is going to talk about faith to other people. It means arguments get resolved in the kitchen, not behind closed doors.
“If they don’t see me opening my Bible and I talk about faith to other people, what in the world am I doing?”
When Courtney asked Mike what he would want a nonprofit leader to remember from this episode, his answer was not a marketing tactic.
“God’s plan supersedes your plan. Leave room for God to have his way, not just yours.”
He added one practical footnote. Get wise counsel around you. Not just a board. Four specific people: a Paul, a Timothy, and a couple of Barnabases. “If you can’t write a name in those four boxes, get busy writing names in boxes.”
For nonprofit leaders and faith-based founders who keep calling themselves the best kept secret: you cannot build something that matters if no one knows it exists. As Mike said, take some measure of control and responsibility for not being that anymore.
To learn more about Mike and Fervor, visit www.createfervor.com. You can also connect with Mike on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikefarag/. His book, Marketing with Fervor, is available wherever books are sold.
For more operational content for Christian business owners, visit www.monarchcoo.com and follow along on Instagram at @monarch_coo.
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